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Time:07:22 pm
Downloaded ROH New Horizons via BitTorrent. (I'll be buying it in about three weeks when it's available, don't worry.)

God damn the Bryan Danielson/Tyler Black match is gross. And I'm like ten minutes in. The amount of ways that Tyler gets bent around and twisted up and stomped on various pressured joints...I've had to pause the thing like three times already just from the need to go "EURGHHHH!" without missing anything.

Five star fucking match already, btw.
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y2jdingo
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Time:2008-10-03 09:58 am (UTC)
I'm like three minutes from the end as I type and this is AWESOME. The end part probably should have gone on earlier like I've seen people say, but the whole thing is still AWESOME.

And amen to Tyler Black. The dude needs to get more promo time to improve and he could definitely be a cult indy guy like Punk.

...unfortunately...I don't think he's going to get the title until at least Nigel gets done with it. I'm not going to put a timeframe on it 'cause I know nothing about good booking. The whole AOTF has a long way to go and about seventeen more chapters before Jimmy and Tyler implode, and I don't think Nigel's going to be a face again for quite a while - not until the next installment of Nigel/Dragon, anyway. That all depends, of course, as to whether Tyler goes good guy or bad guy towards the end.
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xias
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Time:2008-10-03 10:17 am (UTC)
well, I don't know about seventeen more chapters, because at the Philly show after losing the cage of death Tyler and Jimmy very briefly teased dissension before making up at the end. as far as I know that was the first time they ever even teased it, true, but the fact that they've teased it at all says to me they'll be breaking up at some point and probably not as far down the line as you're saying.

now, I love love love the AOTF, Tyler, & Jimmy. so I'm not saying this because I want them to break up, because I think they're fucking badass together. but Tyler is pretty clearly going to be a face in this promotion in the long-run (his reactions are pretty much eerily similar to how the vast majority got behind Austin Aries while he was still technically a heel in GenNext), and that's going to require a break-up because that same vast majority absolutely hates Jimmy Jacobs. so yeah, I think it's something that's definitely on it's way towards happening, maybe not by the end of the year, but not too long into '09 I think.
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y2jdingo
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Time:2008-10-03 10:35 am (UTC)
Mmm. It doesn't seem like the AOTF(Jimmy)/Aries thing is over yet. (Of course, no word from either camp/any live shows since Steel Cage Warfare, so I could be mistaken.) And unless they somehow draw on one to feed the other, I can't see both storylines happening over the same period.

I totally agree on Tyler coming out the face at the end of the AOTF. He's basically a face already, just not when he's actively doing something with Jimmy or against Dragon & a couple other select top faces.

Another thing to kinda consider is, and what the ROH messageboard has started jumping all over: Tyler's win loss record. The last couple of matches he's won have been tags, and while I'm not a hundred percent positive on this, he's not won a singles match (or at least not a high profile one) in AGES. 'Cause I'm sure I'd hear about it if he did. I'm now thinking of the end of '04 with Aries - whilst he did lose against Dragon he finally managed to pull it out and then head successfully along the road to Final Battle. I wasn't a diehard back then but I'm fairly sure no-one expected that with any degree of certainty.

But the long winded point I'm trying to make is: Tyler's got to start doing a lot more than losing some really fucking sweet matches with the excellent opponents, he's got to start winning. And with the current stuff that's going on with the title - Dragon's beating all Nigel's defeated opponents on PPV - Nigel's not going to lose that to anyone until Dragon gets his rematch. Which is, I think, at least three or four PPVs down the line.

I don't know if it'll really take as long as I think, but I have a feeling Tyler's title shots are going to be very sparsely given; if only so you and I and every other ROH fan counts down the days to a new champ with a huge degree of certainty. And then Gabe will yank the carpet out from under us at least once before giving us what we want.
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